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Eran Efrati spent years as a sergeant and combat soldier in the Israeli military, but has since become an outspoken critic of the occupation of Palestine and Israeli apartheid.
Israeli Army Vet’s Exposé – “I Was the Terrorist”
The Empire Files 048

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with the Trump administration empower
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Israeli politicians have been
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celebrating this new opportunity ramping
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up settlement projects some of these are
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even financed by Trump’s own son-in-law
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rumored to be the president’s pick to
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broker so-called peace in the region can
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I reveal Jared how long we’ve known you
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while these illegal settlements grow in
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a Palestinian villages some are built
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directly in the middle of thriving
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cultural centres such as a bran one of
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the most hyper militarized cities in the
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world when I was in Hebron I was shocked
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by how aggressively the police state
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imposed an apartheid system all of the
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residents I talked to had horror stories
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of life under brutal occupation
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sometimes Israeli soldiers themselves
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dissent even in the face of very severe
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repercussions one of whom is Iran efrati
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who was stationed in Hebron during his
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time in the Israeli army since leaving
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the military after years of the combat
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soldier a fraud he has dedicated his
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life to documenting Israeli war crimes
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and fighting the apartheid system
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Iranian went from being a soldier in the
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IDF to being a very outspoken critic of
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both the occupation and continued to
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take over Palestine what made you go
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through such a profound transformation
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well you do something that happened
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immediately obviously growing up in you
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though you know you ask me what was my
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role in the military I’m not sure that’s
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my role started with my enlisted I think
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my role started when I was about five
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and I realized that my father is put in
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uniform and going out to Lebanon as a
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reserve soldier that’s the first time I
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saw that I’m a part of the military the
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next time was in a you know kindergarten
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when soldiers came in to tell us about
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the independent war just after the
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Holocaust a memorial the next time will
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be when I was 16 and I will get my first
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draft letter and in this draft letter it
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will be written that I am a property of
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the military this is something that
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every kid in Israel go through when you
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getting into the military system in the
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end your old is so much embedded inside
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the motor the motor is a part of your
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identity as much you as your Israeli old
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Jewish for that matter in Israel and
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going into the military I was expecting
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to be manifestation of me just in
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uniform protecting my country protecting
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my family I grew up on hurting the
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stories from Auschwitz of my grandma so
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my mother side my grandma and grandpa
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was the only survivors from their family
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from the Holocaust all of my grandma’s
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family were killed in Auschwitz the
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stories from my grandpa it was also the
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only survivor from his family from the
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Holocaust and from the other side my
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grandpa and grandma from my father’s
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side grew up on hearing their stories
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about Jerusalem and what it is to grow
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up without freedom under the British
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Mandate for me beaming the military’s to
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protect them and to make sure that our
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life will go on as in freedom and in
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good well I went through seven months of
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boot camp and in the end of the seven
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months I found myself in Hebron the only
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city did have a settlement in the middle
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of the city so getting into the zone one
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of the first things that I had to do was
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protect a Jewish holiday and my job is
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to put in curfew 180,000 Palestinians so
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settlers for throughout the West Bank
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and Israel Jewish settlers could come
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into heaven and celebrate
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so just thousands and thousands of
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Israelis and Jewish settlers from across
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the West and coming to celebrate and the
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only way to keep them protected is to
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make sure that not no Palestinian is
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living at home so literally one of my
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first tasks was to roam the streets and
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make sure Palestinians understand
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they’re going into their home and they
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cannot leave until a second notice
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because the next time we’re coming in
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and the first time was like a movie you
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know we birthed in into the city without
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guns in our hands in our uniform and
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vest with grenades and six packs of
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ammunition
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and we’re just screaming curfew and you
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see the cast you see the people just
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running from place to place closing down
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their shops running home because
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wherever you are when the curfew starts
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this
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where you’re stuck and you cannot go
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anywhere else so you better be at home
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when we’re starting to come the coffee
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oh now the official orders to anyone who
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breaks curfew is shoot to kill
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I never did that I never met anyone
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should kill in this process of a curfew
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but that was the orders and they knew it
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pretty well they knew what they need to
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do this feeling of power at once came as
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a big confusion to me I think I wasn’t
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clear if I’m enjoying the power of
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controlling all these people or if I
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don’t understand why kids look at me
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frightened why are they running away
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when I’m walking into the street before
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my service I work as an educator I love
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kids so I think I was very confused on
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why as a kid will find me scary and I
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realize now in prosper in perspective
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they’ve got to do something the fact
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that I have my boots on my uniform my
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helmet my six packs of ammunition my two
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hand grenades my m16 in my hand but I
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didn’t realize it at the time and I and
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I really couldn’t understand that and I
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think in a very rapid paced I realized
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that my job is actually to maintain an
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apartheid system very very early on I
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understood that the rights that the
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Jewish settlers have I know the rights
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of the Palestinians have I understood
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that I cannot touch a Jewish settler if
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he is attacking a Palestinian the best I
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can do is call a local police department
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to come handle it
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like I would do at home in Jerusalem so
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this Jewish settlers that live in
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Chevron are living under the same rights
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that I live in in Jerusalem but the
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Palestinian next to them next house over
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annex building over sometimes next
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apartment over lives under my rule my
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military rule and I can do whatever I
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want with him I can take his home as a
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temporary base for a few hours to a few
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days to a few weeks I can decide that
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I’m arresting the people of the house
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and tie them up to the fence of my base
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if we will get in order to demolish
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their home or just lock the front door
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and don’t let them
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out into the street their house is on a
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street that only Jewish settlers can
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walk on and Palestinian cannot so they
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have to walk from windows to yards into
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the other side into the cosmos have one
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I think
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realizing all of that in a very very
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early stage in my service and help me
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understood that someone was lying to me
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along the way I didn’t feel like I’m
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protecting anyone I didn’t felt like I’m
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helping anyone feeling more safe
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i feel like i’m terrorizing people i
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feel like for the first time in my life
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the boundaries between good and bad that
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I learned as a kid and obviously I
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learned that I’m on the good side I was
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broken I felt like I am the terrorist
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and my job was literally to scare people
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so they cannot think about acting
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against these early settlers or things
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of the military that was actually our
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define mission to make sure that to
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instill fear in the hearts of
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Palestinians and so on and that’s
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exactly what we did I think Hebron is a
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really intense example of apartheid
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obviously like you just said the
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settlements in the middle of the city
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it’s extremely visible you have the cage
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streets the ghost town it’s it’s
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horrifying why did you speak up and why
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did you do what you did knowing that you
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would suffer such repercussions and
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potentially be banned from returning
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back to your country well growing up in
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Israel like I said I believe that I was
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a good guy
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I mean the story that all of us are
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being told all around the world is that
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the very clear difference between good
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and bad people are there you learn about
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the Holocaust growing up I saw my
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grandma screaming in the middle of the
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night memories from Auschwitz in our
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mind memory store family I knew that I
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am going to be a good human being you
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know in the age of 15 16 I began being
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almost obsessed with trying to
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understand the Nazi side in the
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Holocaust not only to hear the
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stories of the victims of the Jewish
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victims and any other victims from the
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Holocaust but to try to understand how
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can a Nazi soldiers get up in the
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morning give his kids a kiss his wife a
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hug and go out to the camps and do this
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job I just couldn’t understand it and
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when I got into the occupied territories
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for the first time understood how can
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there be a contradicting side yourself
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as a human being you could do your job
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and be a one person at home be a loving
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caring you know boyfriend or son or
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brother and in the same time hold people
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under a regime so oppressed that people
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are dying not from only your bullets but
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the amount of calories being entered
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into their territory like in Gaza from
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depression or sickness this realization
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during my time as a soldier me on the
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right side of history gave me this
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urge that something have to be done
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something have to be spoken
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understanding that nothing is really
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changing from inside that you have to
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step outside and start talking with the
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world about what’s going on and that’s
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the only way you can live in a place not
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only for Palestinians but for me as well
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you know I don’t want to live in an
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ethnocracy I don’t want to live in an
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only Jewish state that values a
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privileged Jewish life on every other
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life this urges me to understand that I
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wanna my kids to grow up in a place when
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they don’t have to press anyone they
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don’t have to be soldiers I guess that’s
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what pushed me to do what ending your
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humanity let’s talk about your time
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after getting out of the military and
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then you went through a series through
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the West Bank interviewing soldiers
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getting their testimony talk about some
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of your experiences there that cemented
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your belief system now and open your
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mind a little bit more I think if there
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I left the military I was still under
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the impression that the things that I
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was going through or my personal
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scream understood that I do not believe
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in these things that I was doing I
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understood it I was like – but I still
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didn’t had the conviction that what
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we’re doing is on a large scale and live
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in the military in time interviewing
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soldiers really made me understand that
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there’s a systematic oppression that is
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taking place in the occupied territories
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Iran let’s talk about L or Azaria the
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soldier who just got convicted of
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manslaughter he executed an unarmed
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Palestinian man laying in the street of
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course in Hebron on camera
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Israel of course is touting this as
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accountability right justice what is
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your reaction to the verdict and yeah
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just your Kenda case in general I think
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the orizari case had to be understand by
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a few contexts
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the first one is the context of Israeli
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military practice of execution and
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targeted killing and also confirming a
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kill whatever you Azaria did on passing
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in in chevron are all practices that are
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alive in the military system in the even
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police system or Mossad it’s illegal to
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continue during execution it’s the
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middle of the previous decade in the
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2000s but then something very
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interesting start I am in my previous
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role as a researcher into this world
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military are taking testimonies from
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many soldiers and one of the soldiers
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I’m reaching to is a soldier from a semi
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elite unit called in Hebrew dove divan
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Cheri in English and he’s telling me a
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story about how he’s serving after this
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role from the after this move from the
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Supreme Court has been main date and
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they cannot do targeted killing anymore
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and how their officer is gathering the
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unit together and tell them we’re going
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to go out tonight to capture this person
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is highly dangerous what you’re going to
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do is we’re going to come in five or six
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people’s unit into their home in the
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middle of the night break in quietly go
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up to his bedroom go into his bed and
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point a gun into his head now if he just
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wake up and
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Surrender we’re taking them into the
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base but if he scream you shoot him in
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the head if we lift this blanket you
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shoot him in the head if you lift these
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hands or legs or trying to do any
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movement you should him in the head now
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because we understand this rational
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human beings that no human being can
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wake up in the middle of the night with
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a gun into his head and a scream or move
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we understand disorders as an execution
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orders that bypass the Supreme Court
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order and instead of saying we’re going
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to execute this person then we’re going
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to arrest this person but if we fill
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this some kind of danger maybe have a
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gun in his bed
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maybe we’ll scream for help we execute
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him so execution is something that is
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very much alive I continue to interview
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dozens of this sherry unit that tells
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the same story about different cases but
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the same exact practice in the occupied
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territories they knew that this is what
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they’re supposed to do they knew that
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they were going into homes in the middle
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of the night to execute people in
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October 2015 the latest Intifada is
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starting and even the official rules of
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not executing human beings are going off
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the window from the prime minister in to
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ministers into media people everybody is
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talking about it from left to right
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about you shoot to kill if you see a
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girl with scissors next to you you
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should to kill executions are very much
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alive in the Israeli military’s early
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police these are discourse people are
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calling for executions people are
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calling for not only executions on you
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know what they call terrorist or
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resistant people Palestinians that are
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running at you but they’re coming for
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revenge and when the earth are doing
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what it does doing it after you heard it
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this specific order of execution every
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what they call a terrorist from every
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section of the intersociety we wouldn’t
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be talking about other varias the
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execution wasn’t on a film let’s be
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honest I mean like you said this is this
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is commonplaces is systematic it’s
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institutionalized however I do want to
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talk about how even before he was
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charged with manslaughter it was a slap
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on the
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at the beginning I don’t know if there
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was just international pressure that
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mounted at a certain point where they
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felt like they had to take the
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investigation forward but even then it
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was a very stark contrast between how
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right-wing Israelis reacted to just a
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house arrest verdict then let’s say
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people here when a police officer shoots
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and executes an unarmed black man and
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usually you have protests in the street
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against the police trying to get
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accountability there in Israel it seemed
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like there was mass rallies in support
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of Eylau Rosaria you know of course it’s
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not surprising Israel is selling this
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idea of the soldiers are more important
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than anything
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the soldiers are more important in the
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life of Palestinians not only the life
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of soldiers the soldiers identity you
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know security fillings are more
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important than our posting in life the
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easiness the comfortable of people going
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out to the street and defending every
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case of men slaughtering that was
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captured on tape that is clear that his
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life is not in danger
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you know they contradict everything that
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we are being told and yet Israelis are
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saying in a very clear voice not only
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that we don’t believe in that not only
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that you will oppress Palestinian and
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will act as much as you know do whatever
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we want but in a very specific way
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saying don’t confuse us with idea of
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moral or right or wrong whatever
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soldiers do in the occupied territories
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are right whatever we’re doing is the
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correct thing I want you to talk
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specifically about the culture within
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the Israeli military that fosters
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anti-arab sentiment and racism
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essentially yes I think the system you
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know we are not only inside the military
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it’s it’s like like I said before that’s
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actually what being an Israeli means
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being an Israeli growing up in the
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Israeli educational departments you
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understand that all they are updates you
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that they’re actually in a way the
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continuation of the biblical Amalek or
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or
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Hitler or you know that everybody dare
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want to throw you into the seat this is
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what your growing up with and you really
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believe in that I mean going into the
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military you’re already going so full of
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hate and fear at the same time that you
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don’t need much to be very aggressive
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violent and racist towards Palestinians
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they see the Palestinian women and the
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Palestinian men as subhuman the occupied
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territories are like in x territory when
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those human beings are not considered to
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be human beings this is a process that
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you’re starting a very early age being
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enforced inside your boot camp and later
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on when you’re going into your service
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when you do not see human beings in
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front of you do not believe their soul
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do not believe their smile do not
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believe their feelings their sub human
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but a book just like you who having
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there’s so many Arab Jews it’s
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incredible like yourself yeah and I
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think the Arab Jews in Israel probably
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the most tragic story in the entire
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story of Zionism after the Palestinians
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you know and it’s not being talked
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enough obviously inside of the society
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or in the world
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the Mizrahi Jews the Arab Jews that came
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around there use of 50 and onward into
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Israel some came by choice came by some
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came by force but beginning came to a
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country that was there came only about
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two years after result was already gave
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out much most of the land into the
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European people and they understood that
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they cannot hold the territory alone
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they need more people on the ground to
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fight off Palestinians or passing the
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refugees if they will come back and then
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they went off and brought most of the
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Arab Jews and put them in the most
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terrible places in Israel on the borders
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on the borders with Egypt or Jordan or
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Lebanon and Syria we put them at buffer
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zones to protect us from Palestinians
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some of them came in deceiveth the
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Zionist Organization sent delegations
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into these Arab countries and call the
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Jews there to come into Israel the
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Jewish homeland
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of them didn’t one too many of them like
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in Iraq or Egypt had a good life one in
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Morocco and wanted to stay they didn’t
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know what will be the destiny of this
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new country that understood that is very
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much likely that a lot of wars will go
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on there they felt protected in those
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countries and they said no and the
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Zionist Organization send another
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delegations into some of these countries
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of people this kind as Arabs from those
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countries they terrorize those people to
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try to force them to come into Israel
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they were born synagogues we have
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testimonies today
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that talks about how they ran after
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people in the street and beat them down
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as so-called Arabs from Morocco from
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Egypt or Iraq trying to scare them and
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immediately after that more people from
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the Zionist movement would come and say
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you see the only safe place you have is
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Israel you have to come now and after
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they came they were being sent into the
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most disgusting forms of settlement for
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the newcomers from the Arab countries
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being spray from DDT with with gas
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trying to clean them up before the
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joining into the Ashkenazi the European
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kids to play with them they were
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separated and segregated for years that
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was not their country and it’s still not
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their country and what they had to do to
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start to assimilate themselves inside
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this new country was to make sure that
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everybody understood that are actually
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not Arabs they look like Arabs they talk
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Arabic but they’re not Arabs they’re
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Jewish because you can be an American
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Jew in you can be a European you but you
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cannot be an Arab Jew and Israel and
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they erase their identity and they
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starting to form what we know today is
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the most extreme right in Israel they
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are the extreme right because they have
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to solidify themselves as the most loyal
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citizens of the States
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you hear this is a cycle of violence
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though and every time I bring up you
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know especially being on the ground in
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the West Bank visiting the de l’opéra
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family or who’s left of it
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you know whenever you bring up these
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these horrifying stories and it counts
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of care on behalf of the Israeli
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settlers a lot of people just say what
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about the stabbing attacks what about
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you know what about the terrorist
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attacks on behalf of Palestinians and
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it’s painted
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as a equal site as a cycle of violence
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and then you have the the truck attack
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that just happened in Jerusalem as a
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former soldier how do you view these
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attacks how do you view the stabbings
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especially when they are directed at
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soldiers well as an ex-soldier I learned
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very personally that if you will not
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respect existence you can expect
23:01
resistance and this is how people resist
23:06
Israel as a state like to use the idea
23:10
that Palestinians only understand force
23:13
or power but the truth of the matter is
23:15
that Israelis only understand power and
23:19
force every other attempt from
23:21
Palestinian to try to negotiate this
23:24
situation in a diplomatic way was a
23:27
counter by more attacks more oppression
23:31
and more occupation more steering of the
23:34
land more destroying of homes most
23:36
settlements being built we decided to
23:39
call we’re going into the UN a
23:41
diplomatic terrorism and to go into the
23:45
ICC you know international terrorism we
23:48
basically described every form of
23:51
resistant as tourism because the sole
23:55
idea of the occupation is not to be safe
24:00
the sole idea is to create an ethnically
24:03
cleanse piece of land only for Jewish
24:07
people with Palestinian workers of
24:10
course some Palestinians can stay and do
24:11
stuff for us but this is our land what
24:14
people maybe don’t understand is that
24:16
Israel is creating the conditions in to
24:21
the situation of constantly having to
24:24
protect yourself the creating the
24:27
situation by oppressive oppressing
24:30
millions of people if you do a phase
24:34
well they have no other choice
24:36
by because this so many of these people
24:39
lost a family member had been to prison
24:43
or lost someone in prison and understood
24:45
that nothing can be changed
24:47
because the truth is that Israel do not
24:50
hear the diplomas because ou do not hear
24:52
the cause of Palestine for equality what
24:55
we are seen in Palestine is what a lot
24:58
of people like to describe as the most
25:00
complicated political situation over
25:03
time it’s probably the most simple
25:05
situation political situation of all
25:07
time it’s a situation about equality
25:10
it’s amazing that you say that Iran
25:11
because this is painted as the most
25:13
complex the most hard to solve they’ve
25:17
been fighting over there for thousands
25:19
of years you hear these these things but
25:22
really it really does come down through
25:24
basic equality in humanity would you say
25:27
that you support the right of
25:29
Palestinians to fight their occupiers
25:31
absolutely I support the right of every
25:33
human being under an oppressive military
25:37
rule to resist this military rule by any
25:40
means possible I do not believe that
25:43
Israel have a right to occupied millions
25:46
of human beings without every decent
25:50
human simple basic human rights for
25:53
their name and I do not believe that
25:55
Israel will change on its own it no
25:57
point in history there was a state or a
26:00
power that had the power to control over
26:03
other human beings and benefit from it
26:06
and just decided to let go of this power
26:08
right soon
26:09
it was always forced on them by the
26:11
resistance of the people underneath them
26:13
all the intervention of other forces
26:15
around the world and unfortunately as I
26:19
do support the Palestinian right to
26:21
resist in any way I do not believe that
26:23
the resistance is enough I do believe
26:25
that the rest of the world have to
26:27
interfere in what’s going on in
26:29
Palestine there’s nothing else that we
26:31
can do except for giving all the
26:34
Palestinian equal rights and starting a
26:37
new state a new equality system for all
26:41
human beings on the ground
26:44
Oh


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